Professor Carper’s Pre-law
Advice
Introduction
I have no desire to write a tome or repeat advice you can find from
many good sources. I am convinced after
many years of trial and error what matters most in the advice business is
whether someone is ready at a particular time to understand the available
information. Timing is everything. Most
of us need to hear something several times before it sinks into our brain. For students interested in law school the
Internet is a helpful aid because you can return to it anytime you are ready to
learn. I wish the Internet had been
available when I was considering law school.
What I intend to do on this website is answer a few frequently asked
questions; make a few pithy and wise comments, and then send you to other
websites where others before me have already addressed important questions. This
presentation is informal. The questions
come from a hypothetical composite student and I am calling him Ferd
Ardmeyer. Ferd and I have been together
many years as my former students can attest.
My major contribution may be when I say something that differs from
conventional wisdom.
Cautions
1. My site is a forum for my opinions and an
attempt to provide advice to those that seek it; the official CSUS website is
hosted by the government
department. It is a good site and I
have few quarrels with its content.
Neither CSUS, or the
2. I do not revise this website save for once
each summer (my so-called free time). So
be cautious with any date specific information.
Also note that websites are not stable so links may be outdated. Using Internet search tools allows you to
find the information you seek on your own.
What about Law as a Life Choice
So you have decided that you want to be a lawyer or more likely you are
thinking that "maybe" you want to be lawyer. Or perhaps your medical
school application was denied and you need new options to actually going to
work. The decision to seek a legal
career should not be made in haste or by default. The law can provide a
wonderful and fulfilling career if chosen wisely and entered into for sound
reasons. If you are after money, it is
my opinion that law is not the best choice.
I believe that most wealthy and successful lawyers become so in spite of
being lawyers. They would have been successful no mater what career they chose.
As an aside lawyer jokes are not new to this century.
"A 1773 census from the county of Grafton New Hampshire “ We have
a county of over 3000 square miles, a population of 6549 souls of which 90 are
students at Dartmouth College. We have 25 incorporated towns all in a thriving
condition including 4 grist mills, 5 Saddler shops, 7 mill wrights, 8
physicians, 17 clergymen and not a single lawyer. For this happy state of
affairs we taken no credit unto ourselves but render all glory to god” From the
book: “The Conscience of a Lawyer.”
It is very difficult to understand any job or career without having
done it. The best one can do is observe,
read, and ask questions of those who have made the law a career. Asking questions, particularly good ones are easier
than you might think. Most lawyers (this
is true for most professionals) enjoy talking about themselves if the
questioner is respectful. Give it a try.
In ancient
A
defendant in Superior Court decided to be his own lawyer, which some say was
mistake number one. His second mistake
was the first question he asked the victim: "Did you see my face clearly
when I took your purse?"
The
sentence: Two to ten years.
An attorney-at-law
(also called a lawyer) is a person
authorized by law to represent persons (clients) in legal matters. Parties
involved in serious legal matters need skilled attorneys to represent
them. If they lack this help the result
may be similar to that of the criminal defendant in the above story. Knowing which questions to ask in court is
one of the things an attorney is good at doing. Attorneys, however, also draft
documents involving legal rights and duties and give expert advice on legal
questions. Countless businesses and public organizations routinely look to attorneys
for such help.
It has been estimated that more than
two-thirds of the adults in the
Only licensed attorneys may perform most
legal services for clients. A person who provides legal services without a
license may be charged with a crime. State statutes provide for the regulation
of lawyers and the practice of law. Each state sets its own qualifications for
admission to practice law within its borders. To practice in more than one
state, an attorney must get a separate license from each state.
To get a license to practice law a person
must satisfy four requirements. These requirements are:
1) Possession of good moral character
2) Completion of certain minimum educational
requirements. In most states an undergraduate degree from a college and law
degree from a law school. It usually takes a minimum of 7 years of college.
Most law schools do not require any particular undergraduate degree.
3) Passage of an examination (the bar
examination). In many states the examination takes two to three days to
complete.
4) Taking an oath to support the law and the
rules of professional conduct in the state.
A law license permits an attorney to practice
all types of law. In reality most attorneys specialize in one or a few areas.
Examples include, divorce law, tax law, criminal law, personal injury law,
business law, and consumer law. All attorneys are allowed to represent clients
in court. However, most attorneys consider trial work a specialty. A majority of lawyers do not go to court.
Most attorneys make a very good living.
However, the type of law practice, the size of the law firm, the nature of the
lawyer's specialty, and whether the practice is in a city or the country are
among the factors that determine a lawyer's salary. It is not unusual for
lawyers in a big city law firm to work more than 60-70 hours a week and be very
well paid. Some lawyers representing indigent (needy) clients work the same
long hours and make far less money. A surprisingly large number of attorneys
practice alone.
Specialties
in law practice
Although the license to practice law
authorizes an attorney to work in any area of the law, they often specialize.
To be knowledgeable and keep current in theory and practice in all the fields
of the law is impossible.
Many states (including
Below are just a few of the legal specialties
available.
"May
your life be filled with lawyers."
Mexican curse
Business
attorney
Business law practice is a major specialty
sometimes called corporate law. These attorneys work with businesses in
negotiating contracts, selection of the proper business form, tax problems,
raising capital, employment, and other issues. The business attorney is
counselor, drafter and negotiator.
Business attorneys seldom go to court. If a
problem requires extensive courtroom appearances, the business attorney will
associate with a litigation (trial work) specialist. Business attorneys do represent clients in
their dealings with governmental agencies. This representation may include
appearing before boards or political bodies (i.e., county board of
supervisors). Some business attorney's work as company employees and are often
called corporate counsel. The American Bar Association has a sub group of
attorneys called the Business Law
Section.
Criminal
defense attorney
Next to the public prosecutor, this is a type
of law practice likely to be portrayed in books, movies and television. The
criminal defense attorney is a trial attorney providing courtroom defense to
individuals accused a crime.
Under the adversary legal system, the state
is obligated to prove that a person charged with a crime is guilty. The
criminal defense attorney's job is to represent the client vigorously. For example, a criminal law attorney must
attempt to persuade a judge and jury to free a client, even though the attorney
suspects that the client is guilty. This
is considered ethically correct because the lawyer's duty is not to judge that
is the duty of a jury or judge and everyone is entitled to all available legal
advantages. Even after a client has been convicted, the attorney will argue for
probation rather than prison. A criminal defense attorney is ethically bound to
support and try to win the client's case.
A defendant has a constitutional right to be
represented by a competent attorney at all stages of legal proceedings if
accused of a serious crime (i.e., a felony). If a defendant is indigent (unable
to afford the services of a private attorney), the court will appoint an
attorney, often called a public defender.
Contrary to some popularly expressed views, attorneys in public defender roles
are generally very competent and zealous advocates for the defense. They are
specialists. They handle a heavy caseload, develop vast experience in a short
time, spend much time in court and know the judges and court staff. Since they
handle many criminal matters, they know the probable results of a plea negotiation
or bargain. Often records of losses reflect that they are unable to choose
their clients. Public defenders by inclination fight for the underdog.
Criminal defense attorneys spend much of
their time negotiating or in trial work. Most are very competitive and
aggressive. Among the organizations available for criminal defense lawyers is
the National Association of Criminal
Defense Lawyers.
Labor
Lawyer
The labor lawyer represents either employers
or unions on issues related to collective bargaining. The may assist in the
negotiation of collective bargaining agreements between labor and management.
If there are accusations of wrongful labor acts (practices), they will
investigate and either bring or defend charges.
When job related complaints (grievances) are
made the union attorney will often represent the employee. The company attorney
may work on the grievance defense. If job related complaints are brought
concerning a breach of the collective bargaining contract, the labor law
attorney will represent the parties in administrative agency or court hearings.
Some labor lawyers become labor arbitrators after several years of
experience. The ABA Section on Labor and
Employment Law provides good links to other employment law sites.
Personal
injury attorney
Attorneys that represent injured parties who
claim the injuries were the fault of another. Automobile collisions, airplane
crashes, defective products, unsafe working conditions are but a few of the
events that bring lawsuits by personal injury attorneys. Most legal advertising
on television is by personal injury attorneys.
Often personal injury attorneys specialize in
particular types of cases, such as motorcycle accidents. Many good lawyers
become well versed in physiology (study of the human body). They know how
injuries occur and the nature of their effect on the lives of the injured.
In personal injury cases, legal services are
usually available on a contingent fee basis.
The fee (a percentage of the amount recovered) is contingent on the outcome of
the case. No fee is paid unless money is won for the client. The client,
however, pays court costs.
Personal injury attorneys are litigator's.
Although they will usually attempt to settle cases, they must be prepared to go
to court. Like criminal defense attorneys a premium is placed on negotiation
skills and advocacy skills. A few years
ago the California Trial Lawyer's Association changed its name to the Consumer Attorneys of California. They think it sounds better. What do you
think?
Public
Prosecutor
The public prosecutor may be called a district attorney, attorney general or county prosecutor. His
or her role is representing the state in criminal prosecutions brought against
criminal defendants.
Unlike some other areas of law the public
prosecutor lives in court. When they are not in trial they are working with
investigators, negotiating, or attending hearings for arraignments, pleas, or
sentencing. The prosecutor has a primary duty to see that justice is carried
out, not simply to win a case. For example, a prosecutor is legally and ethical
required to notify the defense of any evidence in a criminal case that shows
the defendant's innocence. Although defense counsel is not obligated in the
same way, she or he may not destroy nor present as true any evidence that is
known as false, nor solicit or condone perjury to win a case.
Sports
attorney/agent
Not long ago, at least in giant
tortoise years, most professional athletes negotiated
their own contracts with the team's general manager or owner. The results were
not good for the athlete. Now, these athletes are virtually all represented by
an agent for contract negotiations. Agents are usually lawyers
or business professionals who may also represent the athlete in business
dealings, such as advertising and promotions.
A good sport's agent can evaluate the value
of the client, based on comparable contracts awarded others. The agent also
should consider the needs of the client with respect to deferred compensation
(pay over time), injury protection, taxation, education and other contract
features. If agreement cannot be reached with the client's team, the agent must
decide whether the player should "hold out" and refuse to play until
a contract is reached.
Sports agents have suffered from several
scandals in recent years. Some agents paid money to excellent collegiate
athletes in hopes of getting lucrative representation when the athlete becomes
a professional. This arrangement has caused several players to be ineligible
for further college competition. Other agents have been criticized for conflict
of interest in representing players.
Tax
Attorney
Imagine paying someone money to convince a
government official that your land (including all the buildings on it) is not worth
as much as the government says it is. It
may sound crazy, but many people pay tax attorneys to do just that. The more
your land is worth, the higher your property tax will be. The tax attorney may
appear before the county assessor or other tax official and argue your case. Is
the tax attorney ever successful? Certainly, especially when armed with new
evidence-like your garage collapsed in the last storm or for us Californians
earthquake.
A tax attorney also looks
vigilantly for favorable laws (loopholes) to allow a client to reduce or avoid
tax payments legitimately. Ethically, this is proper so long as no evasion
(violation of tax law) or fraudulent practice (such as forging documents) is
involved. Congress often authorizes loopholes or tax shelters to encourage
certain types of socially desirable investments. For example, Congress allows
interest paid on home mortgages to be deducted from taxable income reducing the
income taxes paid by homeowners.
Tax attorneys are highly educated people.
Many of them have attended two additional years of tax law school (LLM) after
obtaining their regular law degree (JD).
All of this helps them to wade through very difficult tax
regulations. If you enjoy working with
numbers, tax law may be the profession for you.
If politicians ever get serious about tax reform (very doubtful) demand
for such tax work will be dramatically reduced.
The good news for tax lawyers (and bad news for everyone else) is most
so-called tax reform legislation creates makes more work for lawyers. Don't blame the lawyers for bad laws any more
than you blame the mortician for the death of a loved one.
About
Applying to
As in any professional career, law requires preparation
but the preparation is general not specific. A good well-rounded student
"could" make the decision to go to law school rather late. Note I
said could not should. Most law students
are competitive including in my experience even those who say they aren't. Application is generally made in the fall of
the year in which you receive your baccalaureate degree.
As part of the admissions process you must take the Law School Admissions Test. The test is a
service of the Law School Admissions Service and is required by most if not all
law schools. It is not a pass or fail
test. Instead you get a score that
translates into a percentile placing you on a scale with all other
applicants. The better your score the
more attractive you look relative to other applicants. The test is given several times a year. You
can find out when it is given by clicking on the following LSAT date
source. You also may have questions
about where
to apply and checking some of the general pre-law advice websites should
help.
Are there too many lawyers?
Of course, in a perfect world we would not need any. Actually we would not need any physicians,
police, locksmiths or talk show hosts either.
If the question is rooted in concern as to whether there will be
sufficient employment after you graduate it is legitimate. It is still,
however, hard to answer. I know there
are too many basketball players but the best player's should still keep
competing. The question you might ask is
how good a lawyer you are going to be. If
you are just getting by in your other pursuits becoming a lawyer will probably
not change that.
What is the appropriate pre-law
major?
The good news is there is no answer to this question and that of course
is also the bad news. Law schools expect
that a student will be able read and understand significant amounts of new
material, be able to write with clarity and grammatical correctness, be able to
engage in problem analysis and critical thinking, and be capable of independent
research.
My advice is simple
·
Your major should be
challenging. Law schools are good at
looking at transcripts and determining whether a student engaged in rigorous
study or sought to manipulate GPA by seeking easy courses.
·
You should study some topic in
depth so you are aware of the important distinction between surface knowledge
and the more demanding requirements of in depth knowledge.
·
Whatever your major-select
electives which allow you to be well rounded as to your knowledge and skills.
·
If you expect to have clear and
deep interests in some particular area of practice take substantive courses in
that area. Law school prepares lawyers
not engineers, businesspersons, or computer specialists. Knowledge about a particular practice area
may well need to come from life or other college work.
There is excellent information provided on pre-law preparation at the ABA website. I cannot say it better so why try?
What about law courses at undergraduate school?
The general advice from law schools is to avoid such courses. The dilemma for many is how I find out if I
will enjoy the study or practice of law without some exposure to it. I guess the compromise answer is to take a
sufficient number of law courses to test your interest and then no more. A quote from a former student and teaching
assistant who graduated from law school in 1999 may be instructive. “I also
find myself building most of my knowledge from a foundation I formed from your class
and my later work with Business law students. That tells me that exposure to
law in undergraduate classes is a good thing for future law students. Most law
schools discourage that, as does the
Books to read about the law
Most pre-law websites make excellent recommendations about which books
to read for those interested in law. I
will not repeat their efforts but instead occasionally add books that might be
on these lists.
·
"The Conscience of a
Lawyer" by David
Mellinkoff. I think this is a
great book. It is about real occurrence in
·
"A Civil Action" by
Jonathan Harr. This popular book presents an unusual and difficult situation
that reveals many truths about the American Adversary system. The book is far superior to the movie. My overall conclusion is our legal system
stinks but to paraphrase Winston Churchill it is better than any other existing
system.
The best law schools
Most advisors will tell a student to go to the best law school one can
get into. It makes sense- after all
prestigious schools lead to prestigious jobs.
Unfortunately the most prestigious law school is not necessarily the one
that offers the best education. At graduate and professional schools general
reputations are built on the quality of faculty and alumni--not on the quality
of educational programs. The quality of
the faculty is based on their writing, research, prior prestigious law
positions, and the schools they graduated from and on and on. Whether these faculty members can teach or
even care to teach is not really part of the determination of quality and
prestige. The students at the "best
schools" need less tender loving care because after all they are bright
enough to take care of themselves and they often need to. Students learn to learn from each other and
on their own with only general guidance and prodding. Often the best teachers are found at second
tier schools as they love “to teach” as much or more than doing research.
There are several lists of the “best law schools” provided to sell
magazines or books but these lists seldom can tell you anything but perceptions
or numbers. For example, faculty student
ratio is generally determined by number of students per faculty member. If there are lots of faculty members but they
don’t teach many classes then your class size may be larger at the schools with
a low faculty ratio than at a school with a higher student faculty ratio. I assure you anybody with half a brain can
spin. I would give examples but would no
doubt offend.
So what do you want? Prestige,
nurturing, opportunity, special programs, etc.; are among the factors you
should consider. The best law school for
you may change depending on your needs.
Websites with additional useful information
The complete list of the nationally accredited law schools
This site provides a good starting point for most questions about going
to law school.
The Internet Legal Resource
Guide
Need money look at information about financial aids?
This is the club for Law School Faculty members
LSAT preparation courses
Legal Fraternity
Want to do some Legal Research?
Cornell Law
School Legal Information Institute
Questions Pre-law Student Ask
This is a fine list on activities for each year of college. Use a as a general not specific guideline.
Here are some very good general websites at Universities
Washburn University
School of law
Great general
information from the Northeast Association of Pre-Law Advisors